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> And somehow we’re supposed to be feel bad about the way we treat > illegals?????? Read this and see how Mexico treats legal non-native > residents…. > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12250584/
What an evil reporter. To even suggest that another country besides the USA might not be perfect.
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>> And somehow we’re supposed to be feel bad about the way we treat > illegals?????? Read this and see how Mexico treats legal non-native > residents…. > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12250584/ >What an evil reporter. >To even suggest that another country besides >the USA might not be perfect.
Did you read that article? Contrast the way that the Mexican Government treats immigrants to Mexico with their expectations as to how we here in the US treat their excess population that is being forced to migrate northward… The more I read about stuff like that the more I think that the Southern US border ought to be moved to the current location of the border between Panama and Columbia and that all the corrupt governments in between ought to be abolished. If people want to be US citizen units that badly we can accomodate them.
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I especially like the quota Mexico has against the importation of certain items from China. Did you know there are more PHDs in Botany in Mexico than in the US???
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> Did you read that article? > Contrast the way that the Mexican Government treats immigrants > to Mexico
My experience is that Mexico treats legal immigrants just fine, thank you. Most white folks who immigrate there are expatriate retirees who have little interest in taking Mexican jobs, let alone learning enough Spanish and the details of Mexican politics to run for office. BTW, there’s several hundred thousand of them. Once they learn the ropes and get used to the cheap prices, nice climate, hospitable people and good food, few of them leave. Go to Ensenada, San Miguel and Puerto Vallarta, visit some of them. There are Americans and Canadians who emigrate to Mexico to start businesses, and so long as they put Mexicans to work, most of them do just fine, too. Some Americans de facto illegally immigrate by abusing Mexico’s lenient tourist-visa system. > with their expectations as to how we here in the US > treat their excess population that is being forced to migrate > northward… Most of these laws are in place to keep Central and South Americans from immigrating and taking the $50/week jobs many Mexicans have to put up with, thus encouraging more Mexicans to emigrate to the USA. Those laws also help prevent further illegal immgration to the USA by Central and South Americans, by denying them an easy stopover oasis in Mexico. So they’re doing YOU a favor. But you are comparing apples with oranges here. The USA is the world’s richest country. Mexico is a developing country with resources the Mexicans need to conserve, lest the IMF and the World Bank cut off their credit and create a real mess neither us nor the Mexicans want. The Mexican federal government’s budget is less than the state budget of California. There are plenty of second-generation immigrants and foriegn investment in Mexico. Italian-Mexicans run much of the dairy business. German Mennonites grow much of the grain. The richest guy in the country (Carlos Slim) is a Lebanese-Mexican. Salma Hayek is half Lebanese. Irish Mexicans (los San Patricios) have a statue in their honor. Mexico City has over 100 Japanese restaurants. You can get Chinese food in the Mexico City airport. The guy who used to read the news on Televisa was a Polish Jew. The best selling tequila salt is "kosher pareve" (so people can chug Cuervo shots at seder, I presume). When Mexicans let any old immigrant buy land and run for office, rich white guys like William Randolph Hearst came in and nearly bought the whole country up from poverty stricken Indians for pennies and reduced 90% of the population to plantation peonage labor. That’s what the Mexican Revolution was about. Look it up. > The more I read about stuff like that the more I think that > the Southern US border ought to be moved to the current location > of the border between Panama and Columbia and that all the > corrupt governments in between ought to be abolished. If people > want to be US citizen units that badly we can accomodate them.
Really? I think that idea was brought up about 150 years ago. As soon as someone brought up the topic of having to sign treaties with a metric pile of different indigenous tribes and giving them all "border rights" (ask your local Chippewa, Kickapoo, Iroquois or Canadian about how that works), President Polk thought that might be a problem, so he compromised by signing off on the current border (less the Gadsen Purchase). You think there’s too much drug traffic in the US? Imagine if the southern border was the Darien Gap in Panama! Golly, why don’t you collect FARC and the Cali Cartel and give ‘em all green cards, while you’re at it? — Ned Carlson SW side of Chicago, USA www.tubezone.net
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Claude V. Lucas needs ‘grip’ It’s an aging AGA neocon queen thing 
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> You think there’s too much drug traffic in the US? Imagine > if the southern border was the Darien Gap in Panama! > Golly, why don’t you collect FARC and the Cali Cartel > and give ‘em all green cards, while you’re at it? > — > Ned Carlson > SW side of Chicago, USA > www.tubezone.net
Interesting post Ned, although actually knowing something about the subject under discussion is generally not the way it’s done in a.g.a., most posters here preferring uninformed emotion. ;^)
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Did you read that article? > Contrast the way that the Mexican Government treats immigrants > to Mexico >My experience is that Mexico treats legal immigrants just fine, >thank you. Most white folks who immigrate there are expatriate >retirees who have little interest in taking Mexican jobs, >let alone learning enough Spanish and the details of Mexican >politics to run for office. BTW, there’s several hundred >thousand of them. Once they learn the ropes and get used to the >cheap prices, nice climate, hospitable people and good food, >few of them leave. Go to Ensenada, San Miguel and Puerto Vallarta, >visit some of them. >There are Americans and Canadians who emigrate to Mexico to start >businesses, and so long as they put Mexicans to work, most >of them do just fine, too. Some Americans de facto illegally >immigrate by abusing Mexico’s lenient tourist-visa >system.
Right. Mexico is being overrun by illegal American wetbacks. > with their expectations as to how we here in the US > treat their excess population that is being forced to migrate > northward… >Most of these laws are in place to keep Central and South >Americans from immigrating and taking the $50/week jobs >many Mexicans have to put up with, thus encouraging more >Mexicans to emigrate to the USA. Those laws also help >prevent further illegal immgration to the USA by Central >and South Americans, by denying them an easy stopover >oasis in Mexico. So they’re doing YOU a favor.
Horseshit. The Mexican oligarchy is forcing thier undesirable and excess poor population to migrate northward and the American kleptocracy is embracing the cheap labor. >But you are comparing apples with oranges here. The USA >is the world’s richest country. Mexico is a developing >country with resources the Mexicans need to conserve, lest >the IMF and the World Bank cut off their credit and create >a real mess neither us nor the Mexicans want. The >Mexican federal government’s budget is less than the >state budget of California.
The current Mexican Government exists for the sole reason of enriching those that are in control to the detriment of the general population and deserves to be abolished. If the Mexican people had any huevos, they’d be hanging the thieves in the street instead of sneaking under the wire. >There are plenty of second-generation immigrants and >foriegn investment in Mexico. >Italian-Mexicans run much of the dairy business. German Mennonites >grow much of the grain. The richest guy in the country (Carlos Slim) >is a Lebanese-Mexican. Salma Hayek is half Lebanese. >Irish Mexicans (los San Patricios) have a statue in their honor. >Mexico City has over 100 Japanese restaurants. You can get >Chinese food in the Mexico City airport. The guy who used to >read the news on Televisa was a Polish Jew. The best selling >tequila salt is "kosher pareve" (so people can chug Cuervo >shots at seder, I presume).
So? >When Mexicans let any old immigrant buy land and run for office, >rich white guys like William Randolph Hearst came in and >nearly bought the whole country up from poverty stricken >Indians for pennies and reduced 90% of the population to >plantation peonage labor. >That’s what the Mexican Revolution was about. Look it up.
They need to redo it. Soon. Or else become a US territory. Look *that* up. > The more I read about stuff like that the more I think that > the Southern US border ought to be moved to the current location > of the border between Panama and Columbia and that all the > corrupt governments in between ought to be abolished. If people > want to be US citizen units that badly we can accomodate them. >Really? I think that idea was brought up about 150 years ago. >As soon as someone brought up the topic of having to sign treaties >with a metric pile of different indigenous tribes and giving them all >"border rights" (ask your local Chippewa, Kickapoo, Iroquois >or Canadian about how that works), President Polk thought that >might be a problem, so he compromised by signing off on the >current border (less the Gadsen Purchase).
It was a mistake to not stay there when we were in Mexico City then. It was a mistake that ought to be rectified. Sooner rather than later. >You think there’s too much drug traffic in the US? Imagine >if the southern border was the Darien Gap in Panama! >Golly, why don’t you collect FARC and the Cali Cartel >and give ‘em all green cards, while you’re at it?
Somehow I don’t think that the drug cartels will have as easy a time buying the US Army and the DEA that they do with their current partners in the Mexican Government.
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> Somehow I don’t think that the drug cartels will have as > easy a time buying the US Army and the DEA that they > do with their current partners in the Mexican Government.
That was done a L-O-N-G time ago, at the heads of state level between S.& L. America and D.C. In the name of fending off Communism, we provided arms and ‘advisors’ while looking the other way, re; the $hundreds of millions in drug money payoffs amassed by S.& L. American El Presidentes and their Hener-als. El Salvador during Ronnie’s fantasy. You’re creepy blind to reality ‘ol Spa-ster, -but you do amuse. 
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drug cartels are run by our own CIA as well. It all just depends on if it’s in our own best interests at the time. Iran Contra?
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Ned must be a Chicago red diaper baby . YOu tell em Ned. Clobber them with the facts!!!
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Keith Olbermann outed The Move America Backwards crew as being Republican shills. http://www.crooksandliars.com/2005/08/24.html#a4616 Max Blumenthal has a great post on them and the phony "Iraq picture" man hmself, Kaloogian shows up. http://maxblumenthal.blogspot.com/2005/02/calling-kettle-black-ethica… http://www.pnionline.com/dnblog/attytood/archives/003008.html "If Kaloogian wants to fight corruption, he should get up, turn the light on, and take a look in his own slimy bed. After all, Move America Forward’s "Chief Strategist," Sal Russo, who handled Bill Simon’s hapless 2002 gubernatorial campaign, is knee-deep in unethical business dealings and scandals." "That’s right. Move America Forward’s Sal Russo ran tax shelters and bilked campaign donors out of $200,000. Oh, and then there’s the little thing about Russo and Simon being in bed with a major drug trafficker, something they still can’t explain. Simon struggles with an explanation for why he, a former federal prosecutor, did not know that the company president with whom he was going into business, Paul Edward Hindelang, was in fact a convicted major drug trafficker…. http://washingtontimes.com/national/20050126-114931-1687r.htm U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents have seized a U.S. oil company and 43 oil wells in Pennsylvania, as well as numerous trusts and bank accounts in Europe, as part of a 13-year investigation into a $70 million money-laundering scheme. ICE spokesman Dean Boyd said the company and the wells, valued at $6.5 million, were owned by Shaboom Oil Inc., headquartered in Phoenix – a subsidiary of Shaboom Investments Inc. in Panama. Along with the wells, the seizure included 1,100 acres of land in the Allegheny National Forest in northwest Pennsylvania. Mr. Boyd said ICE agents, beginning over the weekend, seized all the ownership shares in Shaboom Investments, along with the assets affiliated with Yately Investments Ltd. in Monaco, including bank accounts at Merrill Lynch and HSBC Republic Bank in Monaco. Also seized were accounts at the Children’s Assistance Trust, Broadhurst Development Corp., Quantum Endowment Fund NV, Quantum Industrial Holdings Ltd., Asian Infrastructure Development Holdings Ltd.; Dolphin Fund PLC, and an account at Barclay’s Bank PLC in Monaco under the name of Quadrangle Nominees Ltd. Mr. Boyd said ICE agents, along with Investigators from the Monroe County, Pa., Sheriff’s Office, located the assets after the money-laundering probe determined they had been purchased with illegal drug proceeds. A federal court in Miami had ordered them forfeited to the U.S. government. In total, ICE and the Monroe County Sheriff’s Office have seized and turned over more than $70 million as part of the ongoing investigation. The seizures were based on a 1981 guilty plea by Paul Edward Hindelang, who operated one of the nation’s largest marijuana smuggling operations in the late 1970s. He pleaded guilty to importing 250 tons of marijuana and conspiring to import an additional 150,000 pounds of marijuana into Florida, Louisiana and other states. As part of his plea agreement, Hindelang agreed to forfeit $640,000 to U.S. authorities. Mr. Boyd said that several years later, ICE agents learned Hindelang had hidden millions of dollars worth of drug funds in overseas accounts. Working with the Monroe County Sheriff’s Office, ICE began "Operation Cash Extraction" in 1992 to track down Hindelang’s hidden funds. The Weekly engaged in an amusing e-mail exchange with Russo, who finally refused to answer when asked why Simon was not suing Deloitte for failing to red-flag Hindelang’s criminal past in its report. (Deloitte is Simon’s accounting firm, by the way). So why is a guy who bilked donors, did business with drug traffickers and was successfully sued by his former clients coordinating a demagogic campaign accusing the UN of corruption? Could it be, um, money? Nah They also put together that Creepy Caravan bus tour to try and fend off Cindy Sheehan down in Texas. MAF also produced phony commercials about WMD’s being in Iraq.
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courageously avow: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> And somehow we’re supposed to be feel bad about the way we treat >> illegals?????? Read this and see how Mexico treats legal non-native >> residents…. >> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12250584/ >What an evil reporter. >To even suggest that another country besides >the USA might not be perfect. >Did you read that article? >Contrast the way that the Mexican Government treats immigrants >to Mexico with their expectations as to how we here in the US >treat their excess population that is being forced to migrate >northward… >The more I read about stuff like that the more I think that >the Southern US border ought to be moved to the current location >of the border between Panama and Columbia and that all the >corrupt governments in between ought to be abolished. If people >want to be US citizen units that badly we can accomodate them.
If you are going to abolish corrupt governments you better start with the leader of the pack, your own. After that just let the Mexicans keep taking California back. They promise once that is complete all that’s left is the Alamo and after that they’ll leave you alone. Ken Wilson
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courageously avow: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->> Did you read that article? >> Contrast the way that the Mexican Government treats immigrants >> to Mexico >My experience is that Mexico treats legal immigrants just fine, >thank you. Most white folks who immigrate there are expatriate >retirees who have little interest in taking Mexican jobs, >let alone learning enough Spanish and the details of Mexican >politics to run for office. BTW, there’s several hundred >thousand of them. Once they learn the ropes and get used to the >cheap prices, nice climate, hospitable people and good food, >few of them leave. Go to Ensenada, San Miguel and Puerto Vallarta, >visit some of them. >There are Americans and Canadians who emigrate to Mexico to start >businesses, and so long as they put Mexicans to work, most >of them do just fine, too. Some Americans de facto illegally >immigrate by abusing Mexico’s lenient tourist-visa >system. >Right. >Mexico is being overrun by illegal American wetbacks. > > with their expectations as to how we here in the US > > treat their excess population that is being forced to migrate > > northward… >Most of these laws are in place to keep Central and South >Americans from immigrating and taking the $50/week jobs >many Mexicans have to put up with, thus encouraging more >Mexicans to emigrate to the USA. Those laws also help >prevent further illegal immgration to the USA by Central >and South Americans, by denying them an easy stopover >oasis in Mexico. So they’re doing YOU a favor. >Horseshit. >The Mexican oligarchy is forcing thier undesirable and >excess poor population to migrate northward and the >American kleptocracy is embracing the cheap labor.
Yeah. Don’t you just love how the Republicans love their electorate. These same jackasses that are giving your jobs away to illegal immigrants are the same ones exporting them to other countries as well. Don’t you know you need a large population of useless unemployed crackers to keep a military well stocked with fodder. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->But you are comparing apples with oranges here. The USA >is the world’s richest country. Mexico is a developing >country with resources the Mexicans need to conserve, lest >the IMF and the World Bank cut off their credit and create >a real mess neither us nor the Mexicans want. The >Mexican federal government’s budget is less than the >state budget of California. >The current American >Government exists for the sole reason of >enriching those that are in control to the detriment >of the general population and deserves to be abolished. >If the American >people had any huevos, they’d be hanging >the thieves in the street instead of
fighting their illegal war. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->There are plenty of second-generation immigrants and >foriegn investment in Mexico. >Italian-Mexicans run much of the dairy business. German Mennonites >grow much of the grain. The richest guy in the country (Carlos Slim) >is a Lebanese-Mexican. Salma Hayek is half Lebanese. >Irish Mexicans (los San Patricios) have a statue in their honor. >Mexico City has over 100 Japanese restaurants. You can get >Chinese food in the Mexico City airport. The guy who used to >read the news on Televisa was a Polish Jew. The best selling >tequila salt is "kosher pareve" (so people can chug Cuervo >shots at seder, I presume). >So? >When Mexicans let any old immigrant buy land and run for office, >rich white guys like William Randolph Hearst came in and >nearly bought the whole country up from poverty stricken >Indians for pennies and reduced 90% of the population to >plantation peonage labor. >That’s what the Mexican Revolution was about. Look it up. >They need to redo it. >Soon. >Or else become a US territory.
Mexico already has enough problems, why would they do something stupid like that. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text ->Look *that* up. >> The more I read about stuff like that the more I think that >> the Southern US border ought to be moved to the current location >> of the border between Panama and Columbia and that all the >> corrupt governments in between ought to be abolished. If people >> want to be US citizen units that badly we can accomodate them. >Really? I think that idea was brought up about 150 years ago. >As soon as someone brought up the topic of having to sign treaties >with a metric pile of different indigenous tribes and giving them all >"border rights" (ask your local Chippewa, Kickapoo, Iroquois >or Canadian about how that works), President Polk thought that >might be a problem, so he compromised by signing off on the >current border (less the Gadsen Purchase). >It was a mistake to not stay there when we were in Mexico City then. >It was a mistake that ought to be rectified. >Sooner rather than later. >You think there’s too much drug traffic in the US? Imagine >if the southern border was the Darien Gap in Panama! >Golly, why don’t you collect FARC and the Cali Cartel >and give ‘em all green cards, while you’re at it? >Somehow I don’t think that the drug cartels will have as >easy a time buying the US Army and the DEA that they >do with their current partners in the Mexican Government.
Oh yeah. Ask Phillip Morris and the big-pharma boys how it’s done. That’s if corrupt cops and bureaucrats aren’t already making hay over the business of the war on drugs. Ken Wilson
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dolt.princess Kenni, spokesloon for the Al-Queef brigade of the People’s Liberation Jihad for the Independence of the Democratic People’s Republic – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >courageously avow: >>> And somehow we’re supposed to be feel bad about the way we treat >>> illegals?????? Read this and see how Mexico treats legal non-native >>> residents…. >>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12250584/ >>What an evil reporter. >>To even suggest that another country besides >>the USA might not be perfect. >Did you read that article? >Contrast the way that the Mexican Government treats immigrants >to Mexico with their expectations as to how we here in the US >treat their excess population that is being forced to migrate >northward… >The more I read about stuff like that the more I think that >the Southern US border ought to be moved to the current location >of the border between Panama and Columbia and that all the >corrupt governments in between ought to be abolished. If people >want to be US citizen units that badly we can accomodate them. >If you are going to abolish corrupt governments you better start with >the leader of the pack, your own. After that just let the Mexicans >keep taking California back. They promise once that is complete all >that’s left is the Alamo and after that they’ll leave you alone. >Ken Wilson
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courageously avow: – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >dolt.princess Kenni, spokesloon for the Al-Queef brigade of the People’s >Liberation Jihad for the Independence of the Democratic People’s Republic >courageously avow: >>>> And somehow we’re supposed to be feel bad about the way we treat >>>> illegals?????? Read this and see how Mexico treats legal non-native >>>> residents…. >>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12250584/ >>>What an evil reporter. >>>To even suggest that another country besides >>>the USA might not be perfect. >>Did you read that article? >>Contrast the way that the Mexican Government treats immigrants >>to Mexico with their expectations as to how we here in the US >>treat their excess population that is being forced to migrate >>northward… >>The more I read about stuff like that the more I think that >>the Southern US border ought to be moved to the current location >>of the border between Panama and Columbia and that all the >>corrupt governments in between ought to be abolished. If people >>want to be US citizen units that badly we can accomodate them. >If you are going to abolish corrupt governments you better start with >the leader of the pack, your own. After that just let the Mexicans >keep taking California back. They promise once that is complete all >that’s left is the Alamo and after that they’ll leave you alone. >Ken Wilson >Go back and sit in your corner, Princess. >Nobody called you. >You don’t need to worry. >Your colony is a well behaved one and won’t need any disciplining.
The only disciplining you do is choking your chicken because it keeps spitting on you. Here’s a hint, quit choking it. Besides, it’ll make you go blind on top of already having turned you into a drooling dullard. Ken Wilson
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Quote: "Contrast the way that the Mexican Government treats immigrants to Mexico with their expectations as to how we here in the US treat their excess population that is being forced to migrate northward… " That’s not their excess population. They’re losing a major portion of their productive labor capacity to US. Their policies are generally idiotic and should not be compared to those of the US on an even playing field. Not that I’m defending the US, per se…
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dolt.princess Kenni, spokesloon for the Al-Queef brigade of the People’s Liberation Jihad for the Independence of the Democratic People’s Republic – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – >courageously avow: >dolt.princess Kenni, spokesloon for the Al-Queef brigade of the People’s >Liberation Jihad for the Independence of the Democratic People’s Republic >>courageously avow: >>>>> And somehow we’re supposed to be feel bad about the way we treat >>>>> illegals?????? Read this and see how Mexico treats legal non-native >>>>> residents…. >>>>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12250584/ >>>>What an evil reporter. >>>>To even suggest that another country besides >>>>the USA might not be perfect. >>>Did you read that article? >>>Contrast the way that the Mexican Government treats immigrants >>>to Mexico with their expectations as to how we here in the US >>>treat their excess population that is being forced to migrate >>>northward… >>>The more I read about stuff like that the more I think that >>>the Southern US border ought to be moved to the current location >>>of the border between Panama and Columbia and that all the >>>corrupt governments in between ought to be abolished. If people >>>want to be US citizen units that badly we can accomodate them. >>If you are going to abolish corrupt governments you better start with >>the leader of the pack, your own. After that just let the Mexicans >>keep taking California back. They promise once that is complete all >>that’s left is the Alamo and after that they’ll leave you alone. >>Ken Wilson >Go back and sit in your corner, Princess. >Nobody called you. >You don’t need to worry. >Your colony is a well behaved one and won’t need any disciplining. >The only disciplining you do is choking your chicken because it keeps >spitting on you. Here’s a hint, quit choking it. Besides, it’ll make >you go blind on top of already having turned you into a drooling >dullard.
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> Right. > Mexico is being overrun by illegal American wetbacks.
That’s the point. There aren’t any Americans emigrating to Mexico to get Mexican jobs that pay $50 a week or run for office there. So why would Mexico’s immigration policy even be pertinent to the current debate on Mexicans immigrating to the US? Americans who do want to immigrate to Mexico practically have the red carpet laid out for them. I’m puzzled. Why would AP, a mainstream news organization, even run this story? It’s badly researched propaganda, irrelevant and outdated to boot (Mexican immigration laws mainly date from 1917, so AP had a mere 89 years to dig up the dirt). So, what were you right wing types doing the past 40 years or so, while millions streamed over the border? > Horseshit. > The Mexican oligarchy is forcing thier undesirable and > excess poor population
The Mexican policies on population control have cut the Mexican birthrate (in Mexico) by 75%, to nearly US levels. Mexicans aren’t offering other Mexicans 4 to 10 times their usual pay rate to emigrate to the US. > to migrate northward and the > American kleptocracy is embracing the cheap labor.
That I agree with. The lack of enforcement (and a rational immigration policy) on our side is a scandal. > The current Mexican Government exists for the sole reason of > enriching those that are in control to the detriment > of the general population and deserves to be abolished. > If the Mexican people had any huevos, they’d be hanging > the thieves in the street instead of sneaking under the wire.
Well, I doubt Salinas Gotari and his brother are going to have streets named after them any time soon. The amount of good old fashioned grassroots democracy.. there’s political signs hanging all over, the Mexican press is like bloodhounds all over the politicos, and Mexico City (according to Lonely Planet) hosts 300 protest marches a year (the one where the feds tried to impeach the mayor drew a couple million), is amazing and admirable. Maybe WE could learn something from them! > Or else become a US territory.
That’ll happen about a hundred years after the next time the Cubs win a pennant (GO SOX!). IOW, never. You don’t want to give illegal immigrants citizenship on one hand, but you want to try to integrate 100 million Mexicans, (or simply murder them?) into the US on the other hand? Ain’t happening. > Somehow I don’t think that the drug cartels will have as > easy a time buying the US Army and the DEA
The US Army isn’t being used to defend US borders, the Border Patrol and the Coast Guard do that. They’ve been shortchaged for years and there’s no indication (other than Bush’s expensive window dressing and lip service) that there’s going to be substantive change. (He may surpise me but I doubt it. Sugar and lettuce growers won’t like it) OTOH, Mexicans use their military to protect their borders, that’s how they get videos like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qasgsIKLlWA — Ned Carlson SW side of Chicago, USA www.tubezone.net
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Right. > Mexico is being overrun by illegal American wetbacks. >That’s the point. There aren’t any Americans emigrating >to Mexico to get Mexican jobs that pay $50 a week or run for >office there. So why would Mexico’s immigration policy >even be pertinent to the current debate on Mexicans >immigrating to the US? Americans who do want to immigrate >to Mexico practically have the red carpet laid out for them. >I’m puzzled. Why would AP, a mainstream news organization, >even run this story? It’s badly researched propaganda, >irrelevant and outdated to boot (Mexican immigration laws >mainly date from 1917, so AP had a mere 89 years to >dig up the dirt).
Spin Spin Spin. No wonder you neo-Bolsheviks are so dizzy. Mexico’s immigration policy is pertinant in that if the US enforced a similar policy then we wouldn’t be overrun with Mexico’s excess population, because we wouldn’t be allowing them into the country. >So, what were you right wing types doing the past 40 >years or so, while millions streamed over the border?
Trusting the elected representatives to deal with it. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Horseshit. > The Mexican oligarchy is forcing thier undesirable and > excess poor population >The Mexican policies on population control have cut the >Mexican birthrate (in Mexico) by 75%, to nearly US levels. >Mexicans aren’t offering other Mexicans 4 to 10 times >their usual pay rate to emigrate to the US. > to migrate northward and the > American kleptocracy is embracing the cheap labor. >That I agree with. The lack of enforcement (and a rational >immigration policy) on our side is a scandal. > The current Mexican Government exists for the sole reason of > enriching those that are in control to the detriment > of the general population and deserves to be abolished. > If the Mexican people had any huevos, they’d be hanging > the thieves in the street instead of sneaking under the wire. >Well, I doubt Salinas Gotari and his brother are going to have >streets named after them any time soon. >The amount of good old fashioned grassroots democracy.. there’s >political signs hanging all over, the Mexican press is like >bloodhounds all over the politicos, and Mexico City (according to >Lonely Planet) hosts 300 protest marches a year (the one where >the feds tried to impeach the mayor drew a couple million), >is amazing and admirable. Maybe WE could learn something >from them! > Or else become a US territory. >That’ll happen about a hundred years after the next time the >Cubs win a pennant (GO SOX!). IOW, never. You don’t want to >give illegal immigrants citizenship on one hand, but you >want to try to integrate 100 million Mexicans, (or simply >murder them?) into the US on the other hand? Ain’t happening.
I thought you left-urds liked open borders. No wall No border. No corrupt and thieving Mexican Government, Fine with me. > Somehow I don’t think that the drug cartels will have as > easy a time buying the US Army and the DEA >The US Army isn’t being used to defend US borders, the >Border Patrol and the Coast Guard do that. They’ve >been shortchaged for years and there’s no indication >(other than Bush’s expensive window dressing and lip service) >that there’s going to be substantive change. (He may surpise me >but I doubt it. Sugar and lettuce growers won’t like it)
That’s easy enough to change. All it takes is the will to do. >OTOH, Mexicans use their military to protect their borders, >that’s how they get videos like this >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qasgsIKLlWA
Nice misdirection. Typical.
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Hey Ned – how about that Roti family????? Jeez those Italians sure do know how to infiltrate a government to their own purposes, don’t they? . Shoulda sent them eye-talians back on the boat when they had the chance! It’s a wonder Chicago has any asphalt on the roads at all!! I got to wave at Chicago from the air this weekend and picked up a Sun Times. Some expose!! Spent the week listening to a room full of 80 year olds talking in their foriegn accents they think they don’t have about "mexicans" . Funny how an englishmen who sneaked over here in a horse trailer on a boat thinks he has more rights to be here than a Mexican, and every other street where I was is named after a german. Meanwhile Mexican restaurants have sprung up all over the place. I didn’t know there was such a thing as Illi-Mex – like Tex-Mex but different – they used those red kidney beans and chili (as in chili-dog) spice instead of pinto or black beans and real chili, the waitresses don’t know a chimchanga from a flauta or a corn tortilla from a flour. (still not as weird as the taco I had in Heidleberg that was made with corn meal instead of masa and had gyros meat as fajita – well sometimes you just have to made do, I guess) Hell, there was even an Indian restaurant and several Thai restaurants in town. When I graduated from high school we only had one Chinese restaurant, hamburger joints, chili parlors, and buffets. What IS the US coming to???? Invaded by foriegners, a culinary revolution.
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Yo, Claude. Ned Carlson is the one person who would know about the topic. You, OTOH, are looking like your normal asshole self. Maybe you could listen for a change.
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>Yo, Claude. Ned Carlson is the one person who would know about the topic. >You, OTOH, are looking like your normal asshole self. Maybe you could listen >for a change.
Bite me.
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– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – cried: >Yo, Claude. Ned Carlson is the one person who would know about the topic. >You, OTOH, are looking like your normal asshole self. Maybe you could listen >for a change. > Bite me.
Thank you.
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> Hey Ned – how about that Roti family????? Jeez those Italians sure do > know how to infiltrate a government to their own purposes, don’t they? > . Shoulda sent them eye-talians back on the boat when they had the > chance!
Yeah, especially that Enrico Fermi guy. >It’s a wonder Chicago has any asphalt on the roads at all!!
Coulda fooled ME. Only Mexico City has more asphalt speed bumps than Chicago (the Mayor went to Mexico once and deduced that’d be a good idea). Mayor Daley went to the UK once, now we’s got more roundybouts than Surbiton. I > got to wave at Chicago from the air this weekend and picked up a Sun > Times. Some expose!!
Next, they’ll (finally) deduce why the Cubs suck. C’mon, let’s get our priorities straight. > Meanwhile Mexican > restaurants have sprung up all over the place. I didn’t know there was > such a thing as Illi-Mex – like Tex-Mex but different – they used those > red kidney beans and chili (as in chili-dog) spice instead of pinto or > black beans and real chili, the waitresses don’t know a chimchanga from > a flauta or a corn tortilla from a flour.
You went to the wrong place. Come out here to the South Side, you can find Mexican cuisine that’s frightenly authentic. Like guys frying pork rinds in TWENTY GALLON deep fryers. (still not as weird as the > taco I had in Heidleberg that was made with corn meal instead of masa > and had gyros meat as fajita – well sometimes you just have to made do, > I guess)
Some Polish stores sell a German snack called "Tacos". I never knew tacos looked like little fried pinwheels. Hell, there was even an Indian restaurant and several Thai > restaurants in town. When I graduated from high school we only had one > Chinese restaurant, hamburger joints, chili parlors, and buffets. What > IS the US coming to???? Invaded by foriegners, a culinary revolution.
If variety is the spice of life, Chicago is panang curry with a side of habaneros. — Ned Carlson SW side of Chicago, USA www.tubezone.net
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> > Hey Ned – how about that Roti family????? Jeez those Italians sure do > know how to infiltrate a government to their own purposes, don’t they? > . Shoulda sent them eye-talians back on the boat when they had the > chance! > Yeah, especially that Enrico Fermi guy.
laughing ……yeah, right, him too!! >It’s a wonder Chicago has any asphalt on the roads at all!!
I read that the Roti family was stealing millions of dollars of asphalt from y”all. Da Mob- doz guys are wunnerful. Didn’t you read the Sun Times last week? – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> Coulda fooled ME. Only Mexico City has more asphalt speed > bumps than Chicago > got to wave at Chicago from the air this weekend and picked up a Sun > Times. Some expose!! > Next, they’ll (finally) deduce why the Cubs suck. C’mon, let’s get our > priorities straight. > Meanwhile Mexican > restaurants have sprung up all over the place. I didn’t know there was > such a thing as Illi-Mex – like Tex-Mex but different – they used those > red kidney beans and chili (as in chili-dog) spice instead of pinto or > black beans and real chili, the waitresses don’t know a chimchanga from > a flauta or a corn tortilla from a flour. > You went to the wrong place. Come out here to the South Side, > you can find Mexican cuisine that’s frightenly authentic. > Like guys frying pork rinds in TWENTY GALLON deep fryers.
I wasn’t in Chicago – just the airport – unfortunately – I was downstate. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text -> (still not as weird as the > taco I had in Heidleberg that was made with corn meal instead of masa > and had gyros meat as fajita – well sometimes you just have to made do, > I guess) > Some Polish stores sell a German snack called "Tacos". I never knew > tacos looked like little fried pinwheels. > Hell, there was even an Indian restaurant and several Thai > restaurants in town. When I graduated from high school we only had one > Chinese restaurant, hamburger joints, chili parlors, and buffets. What > IS the US coming to???? Invaded by foriegners, a culinary revolution. > If variety is the spice of life, Chicago is panang curry with a > side of habaneros.
What I miss. There are no good Greek, Polish, Jewish or Chinese restaurants in Texas as far as I have been able to determine. And the best political scandals this side of Washington.
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